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oh yeah (fannish flail is adequate)
Feb. 14th, 2013 08:45 pmI totally am one of those fans.
Here's the tag set for Kushiel's Legacy in the upcoming![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-community.gif)
rarewomen exchange fest:
And all I see are problems in presentation. No, not Edmee de Rocaille - Edmée de Rocaille! The "no" should have an accent aigu - nó Cereus, not no Cereus. Phèdre, not Phedre, because it's supposed to sound like Phaedra. Also technically she inherited Delaunay's estate, and so she has a name there too. Moirin has a matronymic! She doesn't need to be differentiated with brackets, because her full name is Moirin mac Fainche. (Bao, on the other hand, probably does, since he rejects/has never had a father's name.) Amarante has a byname*! AND AND AND AND AND
This one bugs me so much, though it's not in the tag set because he's not a woman, but it's used on AO3:
which, nooooooo. You are missing something big! He makes a huge point of his name being Imriel nó Montrève, (de la Courcel), thankyouverymuch. And when I say that, I mean he actually corrects/intercepts people on it - call me Imriel, avoid calling me by my title. A major, "I'm not really that big a fan of House Courcel, I prefer my found family" point, early on. It changes, yeah, but it's important for him! You know, like the point where half the realm is reluctant to want him marked as such because of his heritage? Where he feels angry at Ysandre because Phèdre had to use the Companion's Star? That thing? The nó Montrève is important!
Most of these are not the fault of the person nominating; I think, with the exception of a few like Jehanne, they are all already in the system >:( But I won't get into how AO3 drives me batty with inconsistent everything and "we only let you have the appearance of setting tag names" dance. Because that would take up too much space and has been said eloquently elsewhere.
HOWEVER
While I am unsurprised by some of the names (the day when Melisande Shahrizai and Phèdre are not nominated in a woman-centered exchange fest with this fandom, I will happily eat my hat) but I am really happy about some of them. MOIRIN, yes, give me all the fic. With magic, or adventuring, or anything. Someone nominated Jehanne! And Snow Tiger**! Even Edmée! ♥ for all of them. I can't wait for this exchange. I do love Melisande and Phèdre, but I'm excited about maybe getting fic about other characters, too.
*Also, I only noticed this a few months ago, but Carey actually has a bit of language evolution - Phanuel is descended from Amarante, but while she's called Amarante de Namarre, by the time it's gotten down to Phanuel, his last name has become Demarre. Some elision has happened (it is a little awkward to put two alveolar sounds there - /d/ and then /n/, and it's much easier to go from /d/ to /m/ instead) so his surname is recognizably still Amarante's, but plausibly changed over the past hundred years! I live for these details in the world-building, I really do.
**ACTUALLY ALSO, by AO3's admittedly very inconsistent standard, I think her name should actually be Xuě Hǔ | Snow Tiger. Except wait, what do you do with tone sandhi?? Because no one will actually say that (assuming modern pronounciation; I am not sure the language even has tonal contrast yet - dates uncertain.) Xué Hǔ | Snow Tiger, rather. I tried scrolling through media on AO3, but all I saw was Japanese, and also they are really inconsistent, so I'm gonna abandon this one.
Here's the tag set for Kushiel's Legacy in the upcoming
rarewomen exchange fest:Edmee de Rocaille
Jehanne de la Courcel no Cereus
Snow Tiger (Kushiel's Legacy)
Alais de la Courcel
Amarante (Kushiel's Legacy)
Erdene
Melisande Shahrizai
Moirin (Kushiel's Legacy)
Phedre no Delaunay
Roshana Shahrizai
Sidonie de la Courcel
Ysandre de la Courcel
And all I see are problems in presentation. No, not Edmee de Rocaille - Edmée de Rocaille! The "no" should have an accent aigu - nó Cereus, not no Cereus. Phèdre, not Phedre, because it's supposed to sound like Phaedra. Also technically she inherited Delaunay's estate, and so she has a name there too. Moirin has a matronymic! She doesn't need to be differentiated with brackets, because her full name is Moirin mac Fainche. (Bao, on the other hand, probably does, since he rejects/has never had a father's name.) Amarante has a byname*! AND AND AND AND AND
This one bugs me so much, though it's not in the tag set because he's not a woman, but it's used on AO3:
Imriel de la Courcel
which, nooooooo. You are missing something big! He makes a huge point of his name being Imriel nó Montrève, (de la Courcel), thankyouverymuch. And when I say that, I mean he actually corrects/intercepts people on it - call me Imriel, avoid calling me by my title. A major, "I'm not really that big a fan of House Courcel, I prefer my found family" point, early on. It changes, yeah, but it's important for him! You know, like the point where half the realm is reluctant to want him marked as such because of his heritage? Where he feels angry at Ysandre because Phèdre had to use the Companion's Star? That thing? The nó Montrève is important!
Most of these are not the fault of the person nominating; I think, with the exception of a few like Jehanne, they are all already in the system >:( But I won't get into how AO3 drives me batty with inconsistent everything and "we only let you have the appearance of setting tag names" dance. Because that would take up too much space and has been said eloquently elsewhere.
HOWEVER
While I am unsurprised by some of the names (the day when Melisande Shahrizai and Phèdre are not nominated in a woman-centered exchange fest with this fandom, I will happily eat my hat) but I am really happy about some of them. MOIRIN, yes, give me all the fic. With magic, or adventuring, or anything. Someone nominated Jehanne! And Snow Tiger**! Even Edmée! ♥ for all of them. I can't wait for this exchange. I do love Melisande and Phèdre, but I'm excited about maybe getting fic about other characters, too.
*Also, I only noticed this a few months ago, but Carey actually has a bit of language evolution - Phanuel is descended from Amarante, but while she's called Amarante de Namarre, by the time it's gotten down to Phanuel, his last name has become Demarre. Some elision has happened (it is a little awkward to put two alveolar sounds there - /d/ and then /n/, and it's much easier to go from /d/ to /m/ instead) so his surname is recognizably still Amarante's, but plausibly changed over the past hundred years! I live for these details in the world-building, I really do.
**ACTUALLY ALSO, by AO3's admittedly very inconsistent standard, I think her name should actually be Xuě Hǔ | Snow Tiger. Except wait, what do you do with tone sandhi?? Because no one will actually say that (assuming modern pronounciation; I am not sure the language even has tonal contrast yet - dates uncertain.) Xué Hǔ | Snow Tiger, rather. I tried scrolling through media on AO3, but all I saw was Japanese, and also they are really inconsistent, so I'm gonna abandon this one.
